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moldavite has ET energy

Yuuup definitely meta...

Anything about altars?

9:12 PM

Shake, Does it bother you that it's meta or do you just like teasing Apollo where he won't see it? lol (edited)

Lol how am I teasing Apollo? Pretty sure he would agree that minerals with an intense frequency of ET energy are meta

9:13 PM

Oh I guess you meant if I was being sarcastic, which I wasn't

9:14 PM

Yes, which is all I was saying, lol

Why are you even talking about whether or not it's meta I mean, especially since we're in meta lol

9:19 PM

Ahhh

9:19 PM

Sorry, I'm slow.

9:20 PM

Anyway, I was just teasing you.

9:20 PM

I am going to look into that though A Z, thank you!

9:23 PM

Do you have anything on altars?

Altars are usually experienced by people with a certain disordar hahahaha I'll see myself out.

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Oh, I think I watched a video that basically described Spares method!

9:26 PM

Haha @Maharani , we love you.

❤️

I want to find some way to make like a portable altar though, if that is a thing that can be done

~~Portable alter = tulpa :P~~

I think the other kind is portable too silly.

Gosh dang it

9:30 PM

I tried XD

XDD

9:33 PM

I'm hiding here until the storm blows over.

9:34 PM

There is actually a literal storm here right now though.

Yesterday I promised some suffering real-life examples. Karina is going to visit her family in Ventura later today and I'll finally get the house to myself for at least two days, listen to music, masturbate, get high, etc. For the past two days, I've been constantly "looking forward" to all that pleasure. "I wish it was Thursday already, once I get to be alone I'll finally be happy, I wonder when she's gonna head out, I hope I can get myself to clean the bathroom right away so that nothing stands between me and pleasure" etc

9:38 PM

Constantly obsessing over a fictional future

9:43 PM

Even though nostalgia over pleasant memories and looking forward to a pleasant future can be, well, pleasant, it's still a mild form of uncomfortableness with the present moment. A preference of reliving the past or imagining the future over whatever circumstance is right here, right now

9:45 PM

I keep reliving pleasant memories of being with friends and family in Germany that I haven't seen for over two years. My time at the university dorm, my weed-dealing at the hospital dorm, camping trips with friends, etc. The memories themselves are pleasant, but there's always an undercurrent of "I wish this present moment could be as enjoyable"

But the looking forward to was enjoyable, right!?

It's me imagining myself experiencing pleasure in the future. The imagining can be pleasant, but there's always an undercurrent of "I wish I was there already, if I don't get to check out all the music on my list I'll be disappointed, I hope I can bring myself to clean the house early enough because otherwise I'll be constantly anxious about it" etc

9:49 PM

It's not intense suffering but it's a definite uncomfortableness with what's here right now

9:50 PM

And expectations for how the future should look in order for me to be happy

9:51 PM

Plus it's completely unnecessary, I'll experience the pleasures and pains of having the house to myself even without imagining it first

Do you think you can maybe imagine and look forward to something and still enjoy thinking about it while also accepting it might fall through?

In theory yes, in my case currently no

9:58 PM

Same with pleasant memories, it happens naturally and can be enjoyable, but in my case there's always a (subtle) disappointment that I can never have that same experience again

9:59 PM

And a comparison with my current mostly painful situation

"Acceptance is not passivity, but non-positionality."

You haven't read that, have you?

yea my piece i have is 66-67 gram of moldavite

@Calyra 👻 No, I just loved the quote

But I've listened to hours and hours of Sam on YouTube

Just wondering what they mean by "frequency", which is a word that describes something related to movement. I wasn't aware there was anything moving in a mineral

@Maharani Atoms are never fully at rest. Even within a solid there is movement. In think in this instance though they aren't talking about a thing that can be observed by science but rather a feeling that one might experience after gaining the knowledge that mouldavite is formed from a meteorite impact and therefore comes from outer space which would in theory give it "other worldly" energies.

Now that sits easier with me :p

Happy to help

@Lula! | 👻 it is entirely possible to have a portable alter. All an alter really is is applied intention upon a collection of things.

6:51 AM

It doesn't have to sit in the same space all the time to be considered an alter. You could even gain much from the mindful setting up and putting away of your portable alter

Okay, good cause I don't think I'm going to be able to keep one up all the time somewhere. Especially cause I can get away with a lot without people thinking Lily's being any weirder than usually but I'm pretty sure I couldn't get away with that so I might have to keep it all put up when not using it.

Is this a green opal?

Opals are usually "opalescent" meaning they're shiny and multi colored when you move them back and forth. I doubt that's an opal

Google search shows a bunch of similar stones for "green opal", I thought the same but this may not be the case

9:37 PM

Although they're a lot shinier at second glance

This is kind of a strange place to ask for help identifying stones. Might I suggest posting that image in a stone identification group on Facebook or elsewhere?

What is that?

~~a dragon's egg, obviously~~

Totally a stone

Ha! That's would be sweet if it was a dragons egg cause it looks like it would hatch a totally adorable dragon.

I would totally put a dragon's egg rock on an alter

Wow I hadn't realized that mainstream explanations of chi had become such a steaming pile of bullshit

9:26 AM

I wonder when that happened. Such a shame

9:28 AM

I was under the impression that chi was a type of manipulatable focus energy . not some kind of universal transcendental type energy that "flows through all things" (edited)

How can anyone say they know what kind of energy flows through a life that is not their own?

What's manipulable focus energy?

Precisely that

2:20 AM

Focus energy you can use

2:21 AM

Its not literal energy per se, but its a kind of mental energy you can control

2:23 AM

I'm struggling for words here lol

ah yes, the eternal struggle of explaning that which is intangible in nature.

What do you use it for?

"Drop the illusion of control. Let life have you. It does anyway. You're just telling yourself the story of how it doesn't."

Stories have their place

They do, but the one that goes on almost constantly about how the past went wrong, how the present is unacceptable, and how the future needs to align with my expectations serves no other purpose than to make us uncomfortable (edited)

3:55 PM

When it falls away, we still learn from mistakes in the past, we still avoid pain in the present, and we still make plans for the future, except now it happens without the discomfort resulting from the story of how it should be (edited)

The reason that we're still able to learn from the past, avoid pain in the present, and make plans for the future, is that those things were always happening automatically, anyway

4:05 PM

The uncomfortable story of "I need to control life or else the world is gonna end" falls away as a result of gradually coming to feel that life happens automatically, moving us and everyone else

4:07 PM

A recognition that we never had to control how we act, that our actions happened inevitably due to factors we were never in control of

4:07 PM

We don't choose our parents, we don't choose our sex, we don't choose our eye colour, we don't choose to operate our digestive system, we don't choose to dream

4:08 PM

But we have this story that we need to choose what we think, feel, say, and do

4:08 PM

And that if we make the wrong choice, we're insufficient, a failure

4:09 PM

In reality the choice is only ever relatively wrong in the sense that it may have caused pain to ourself or others

4:09 PM

But not absolutely wrong in the sense that life glitched out and deviated from what could or should have been (edited)

4:11 PM

Pain is by nature painful, and it's inevitable. The story that pain is wrong and life needs to be pleasant creates discomfort, and is not necessary in order for us to avoid pain (edited)

4:14 PM

We will always avoid pain because our bodies are designed to move towards pleasure. The story that says "I'm accountable to God for how much pain my actions cause" is simply unnecessary

Just out of curiosity, what is the advantage to undermining the ego when practicing Buddhism? If you walked around without a sense of identity in America, I would imagine living life would be really hard. Of course, I think I don't have enough context, I only read one or two passages related to Buddhism.

5:19 PM

I also wondered if you did manage to complete the process of ego death, wouldn't the brain create a tulpa to fill the vacant front?

Excited to answer this in a bit when Im on my computer

@A long kiss goodnight first, for context, let me reiterate that the conceptual framework I keep referencing was first expressed in the late 80s or so by Ramesh Balsekar, whose own teacher was Hindu. The framework in its modern form is being relayed by Ramesh's student Roger Castillo. So its roots are in Hinduism, but after all, Buddhism originated from Hinduism as well

12:05 AM

The reason I love this framework is that it's very elegant and precise

12:07 AM

The problem is that concepts like "ego" and "identity" are often used very vaguely

12:09 AM

You're spot-on, living without the sense of being a person is impossible

12:11 AM

For that reason, this framework says that you always remain an "ego", or a person

12:12 AM

What traditional teachings describe as the ego is labeled differently in this framework for the sake of clarity

12:16 AM

According to this framework, human unhappiness (or "suffering") arises in five forms of psychological thought: 1. guilt and shame, 2. blame and hatred, 3. pride and arrogance, 4. worry and anxiety, 5. expectation and resistance

12:18 AM

Now guilt, blame, pride, worry and expectation arise because of a "false sense of self", a "fictional psychological entity" that traditional teachings call the ego

12:19 AM

The reason that this teaching doesn't call it the ego is that even when this false sense of self falls away, our life experience is still that of being a person interacting with an objective world (edited)

12:20 AM

So in this teaching, the cause of unhappiness (guilt, blame, pride, worry, expectation) is labeled the belief in "personal doership" and attachment to outcomes

12:23 AM

It's a deeply ingrained belief that 1) persons are "independent doer entities", separate from life and uninfluenced by life, and that 2) our happiness/completeness is determined by outcomes, namely that painful outcomes take away from our completeness, and that our happiness will be the result of pleasant outcomes in the future

12:29 AM

Guilt arises because we believe that an action that happened through us that caused pain to ourself or others was our doing, and that we could and should have acted differently in a way that resulted in a more pleasant outcome

12:29 AM

Blame arises because we believe that an action that happened through someone else that caused pain to ourself or others was their doing, and that they could and should have acted differently in a way that resulted in a more pleasant outcome